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Save the Ridge Update
December 8, 2003


Elections
The big news is of course the big win in the Gardiner last month. This is a huge victory! Save the Ridge members (and others, of course) worked very hard to get Carl Zatz elected Superviser and Nadine Lemmon and Matt Bialecki elected to town board. All three had endorsed our platform and made clear that if elected, they would do everything they legally could to preserve the ridge. It is widely acknowledged that the Awosting Reserve development was THE issue that caused a Democratic sweep of the elections in longtime Republican territory, with a turnout that is rumored to be the highest in the state. There were other races in the area where deveopment concerns caused upset victories, a clear warning that politicians should pay attention to people's desire to preserve what open space is still there.

Each of our candidates received around 1100 votes, and each of the losing candidates around 800. It is not a coincidence that around 1100 people had also signed the Gardiner petition for a moratorium on major subdivisions. The current board stonewalled any attempt to implement the people's will, and that undemocratic behavior was the other main reason why new blood is coming in. Now that the people have representatives in office (starting next month), it is to be hoped that the people will stay involved and participate in the many kinds of planning and strategy that will arise, through Save the Ridge, GARD, and commissions and open hearings the board will set up.

Status of the Project
Many readers of the papers around election time got the false impression that Gardiner had turned down the project. What did happen is Awosting Reserve (AR)'s lawyers requested an interpretation of town zoning from the Building Inspector; they asked whether they could "assume" the right to build a central sewage treatment plant. (County health rules require a subdivision with over 49 lots to have one, but Gardiner zoning forbids it on the ridge.) Don Otis, the building inspector, read the town zoning laws and answered no, they could not assume that right, not unless zoning was changed. But then AR appealed to the Zoning Board of Appeals. The ZBA asked the Planning Board and Town Planner for advice, and they unanimously agreed with the Building Inspector. The ZBA then held one hearing last month, at which every speaker from the public agreeed with the ruling and opposed the project. However, that is no guarantee the ZBA will agree.

ACTION ALERT: the hearing is held open for written comments until 4 pm December 18, and for further oral comments at the 7:30 meeting that evening. This is more important than holiday shopping! If you made a comment at the November 23 meeting, or if you haven't yet commented, send it in writing to ZBA, Gardiner Town Hall, Box 1, Gardiner NY 12525. And show up at the meeting to speak as well. Comments should relate to the question whether Gardiner zoning allows a central sewer system on the ridge - and why.

You can find a complete set of the experts', lawyers', and officials' documents above. Take time to read them and see what your interpretation is, and then write about it. (A great project for a high school current events class!)

Some people have also been under the impression that the proposal was withdrawn. That word did get thrown around some but it was sloppy usage. Technically it is still at the sketch plan phase, has been in fact ever since it was submitted 2 days before Christmas last year.

Party Time
Though the formal plan's first anniversary (it was submitted to the towns Dec. 23) is still a few weeks away, Save the Ridge's passed on November 10. Our birthday present was the election results! There is no way to know right now whether the developers will give up the fight any day now - having finally got the point that they are not wanted and what they are planning is wrong - or whether the fight will continue for years, going through a full SEQRA review and lawsuits. But we live here, we can hold out as long as they do. And I don't know about you but for me, every day that I look at the Ridge in its many moods, protecting, hovering, or brooding, it seems more precious and worth saving.

The elections and now the imminent holiday season are keeping us too busy for a birthday celebration right now, but come the new year we plan a really big party for everyone who has been involved in any way. We'll launch projects for next year then, such as a lecture series, meetings and presentations in neighboring towns and schools, renewed signposting, hikes, research, contact with media and politicians, learning about land use law and open space protection ... Be ready to sign up for rejuvenated committees, share your ideas, stay in touch. If you want to help plan the party please email me! (patty@savetheridge.com).

Meanwhile, for those who are looking for ways to help: there can never be too many lawn signs or bumper stickers or leaflets in stores or names on the petition or letters to politicians and papers.

Happy Holidays
Buy your loved ones the meaningful gift: a donation to Save the Ridge in their name with Steve Jordan's beautiful calendar or book as a bonus, or all sorts of Ridgewear. Buy Stuff Now!

Patty Lee Parmalee, Coordinator, Save the Ridge

Appendix on sewer

Skip this if it's more detail than you want. We have since become aware that the developers believe if they can get a ruling in favor of assuming the central sewer, they will not have to prove that each lot they count in their conventional site plan could hold a septic system. This is important because a cluster plan can have as many lots as they would have been able to build on in conventional 5-acre zoning. We maintain that they should only be able to count lots that are fully permissable under conventional zoning, because the intention of the restrictive zoning on the Ridge is to keep density low. Both their alleged cluster (in which the open space left is so fragmented as to be a joke) and the central sewer are clearly devices to build much higher density on the ridge than Gardiner's master plan and zoning foresee (and that the land can sustain).

(Though ultimately we believe there should be NO houses there; the land should be added to Minnewaska State Park Preserve, after being purchased at a fair market price.)


Breaking News! October 2003

The Awosting Reserve developers have filed an appeal with the Zoning Board of Appeals, attempting to overturn the building inspector Don Otis' interpretation of town zoning that stated no central sewer system could be built on the ridge. Jack Hayes, current superviser running for reelection, had sent a press release essentially claiming credit for stopping goliath by following procedures. We found it funny this was done over 6 months after the Clouser Report #2 made it clear central sewer was forbidden - right before the elections. You may have got the impression from press coverage that the plan has been defeated. Not at all. The ruling is now under appeal. Lawsuits will follow. Come to the ZBA meeting and make it clear that citizens are still following the case.

And even more important, if you live in Gardiner, get out and vote on November 4, and get all your neighbors to vote! The candidates who have endorsed the Save the Ridge platform are Carl Zatz for superviser and Nadine Lemmon and Matt Bialecki for Town Board. Under whose leadership do you want the town's laws interpreted? All 3 of them have stated that they will use whatever powers the Town Board has to preserve the Shawangunk Ridge, protecting the rights of existing property owners and the public, not just developers.

VOTE Nov. 4!
Come to ZBA meeting Nov. 20!
Save the Ridge!


October 10, 2003
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -
Contact: Kathy Muessig, 744-3386
Amy Little, 255-0822

Save the Ridge Announces Results of Election Survey in Gardiner

Gardiner: Save the Ridge, Inc. a non-partisan, not-for-profit corporation, announced the results of its survey of Gardiner Town Board and Supervisor candidates to determine their position on issues related to protection of the Shawangunk Ridge. The survey asked candidates to indicate whether or not they agreed with statements related to measures to prohibit development of the ridge and slopes, titled "Save The Ridge Electoral Platform."

Carl Zatz, Nadine Lemmon, and Matt Bialecki endorsed the entire Save The Ridge Platform, while Supervisor Jack Hayes, candidates Peter Licis and John Turner did not. "We are pleased that all six candidates stated unequivocally that they were personally opposed to development on Awosting Reserve and they would like to see it remain as undeveloped open-space." Said Kathy Muessig, long time resident of Gardiner and volunteer officer with Save the Ridge. "However, the difference between the candidates who endorsed the platform - Zatz, Lemmon and Bialecki- and those who did not, is the proactive approach the endorsing candidates would take in reaching those goals as town officials."

Gardiner's Comprehensive Masterplan calls for preserving "...all of the remaining open mountain areas and much of the remaining river valleys for public enjoyment" and protecting " special natural resources and areas, unique geological and open space area, and key water bodies and watersheds."

Citizens of Gardiner called for the Town Board to institute a moratorium on development in order to provide the Town with the opportunity to improve the town codes so that they are consistent with and provide the legal means to enforce these Master Plan objectives, before development proposals overwhelm the community. Jack Hayes responded to repeated community requests for a moratorium by refusing to hold a public hearing to allow discussion of the issue. Therefore he has placed the Town of Gardiner in a vulnerable position.

"A proactive approach, at the very least, would have been to immediately take the steps to enact a moratorium with the intent of changing the zoning codes to comply with the masterplan. That is the leadership for the future of Gardiner we want to see, and an example of how a town official can use the law to protect the public's interest." Said Muessig.

Save the Ridge views elections as an opportunity to raise vital issues regarding protection of the ridge and its contiguous slopes. Save the Ridge is not a political party, is not partisan, and has no preference for any political party. "We urge the citizens of Gardiner to closely examine the candidates for Town Supervisor and Town Board on the issue of protecting the Ridge for Gardiner's future. Those candidates that have clearly indicated their unequivocal commitment to protection of the Ridge by whatever legal means available to them are Carl Zatz, Nadine Lemmon and Matt Bialecki."

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SAVE THE RIDGE- Electoral Platform

Core issues that our members care about and actions we would like candidates to take include:

  • Oppose the development of land known as the "Awosting Reserve," work to help secure funding to purchase that land for open space, water and wildlife habitat conservation
  • Designation of a Ridge Protection Zone for the ridge and contiguous slopes that would include maximum restrictions on development
  • Undertake an inventory of open space, surface and groundwater resources, wildlife habitat and other environmentally sensitive and needed areas
  • Work with neighboring communities on regional growth and open space issues
  • Prohibit development in environmentally sensitive areas
  • Secure funding to help purchase ridge lands and other critical open space, as well as the purchase of development rights for open space
  • Development and implementation of design standards for viewshed areas
  • Restrictions on cell tower placement in order to protect viewshed areas

October 6, 2003

To all who hope to preserve the Awosting Reserve lands in the Northern Shawangunks: A report on the current status

You have doubtless read that the town of Gardiner has ruled there can be no central sewage treatment plant in the ridge district, thus effectively cutting down the possible number of houses from the proposed 349 to 49. We wonder why it took so long, since the Clouser report explaining that was submitted to the town in March. It seems to us that the town government has wasted a lot of people's time and energy (and money), only to release a decision just before the elections, when appearing to oppose development on the ridge will clearly be a vote-getter. And in fact it isn't even a decision; it is an interpretation of town law by the building inspector Don Otis, which will be appealed to the Zoning Board of Appeals, and that result will then probably be litigated. Be warned also that after 8 points explaining why current zoning forbids the central sewer, Mr. Otis' 9th point states, "The Town Board has authority under section 264 of New York State Town Law to approve changes to the Zoning Law and Under Section 190 to establish municipal sewer districts as they may deem to be in the best interest of the Town."

The price of conservation is eternal vigilance. We must make sure no such change to town law comes about; clearly the purpose of forbidding central sewers on the ridge was to prevent large developments and that is the way it should stay; if there is any ambiguity in the town's language the protection should in fact be strengthened.

And of course we will also oppose a 49-house development. The land should remain undeveloped and added to Minnewaska State Park Preserve.

(I wrote the following 6 paragaphs in July, but they are still applicable:) Currently, in a sense, there is no development application. The original plan (349 houses in a so-called cluster development with golf course), presented to the Gardiner and Shawangunk Town Planning Boards on December 23, 2002 (and very slightly modified to eliminate flag lots), has been withdrawn pending revision. Modifications are necessary to bring the main roads in the gated community up to town specs, and then there is the central sewer catch-22: county health rules require central sewage treatment for any subdivision over 49 lots, but Gardiner zoning laws allow central sewer only in the hamlets, not in the mountain or agricultural areas. (See Clouser Report #2 on our website, www.savetheridge.com.)

The plan that was before the Gardiner Planning Board had not gone past the sketch plan stage anyway; it was bogged down in determining how many lots would be permissable in a conventional site plan before any clustering could be considered. The developers' claim of allowable lots was clearly way off, since they had just laid a 5-acre grid over the whole area, buildable or not.

The Gardiner Boards have nevertheless been considering the "concept" of a cluster for the project. The law states that the Town Board has to give the Planning Board permission to consider a cluster; in a peculiar pingpong maneuver the Town Board asked the Planning Board whether the PB recommended that the TB give permission to the PB - and the PB answered Yes. We consider this all premature and probably illegitimate and have at least succeeded in getting further action on clustering by the TB tabled. In fact, final approval for a cluster plan cannot really be given until the environmental review (SEQRA) is finished, because only then will the number of permissible lots in a conventional plan be known.

Similarly, the environmental review process SEQRA is stalled, waiting for the developers to present a draft scope, which in turn is presumably waiting for them to come up with a new plan. Once the draft scope is in, a public comment period will begin. Organized by Save the Ridge, Friends of the Shawangunks, and the Shawangunk Ridge Coalition, many environmental and community organizations have been coordinating expert input into the scope. (You can view the contribution by the Biodiversity Partnership on the Mohonk Preserve website, www.mohonkpreserve.org.) However, the concerned public is also welcome and important at that stage, and we will let you know when the time is ripe to contribute your requests about what studies you would like to see done. (Letters of general concern to the DEC are appropriate at any time - and please send copies also to the newspapers and local and regional politicians - but letters specifically about the scope should wait till the developer's draft scope has been submitted, in order to receive proper consideration.)

When the revised plan is submitted it will inevitably be smaller. Whether it will only be a few lots smaller because of road changes or whether it will go all the way down to 49 lots because of central sewer, or anything in between, we don't know. Our position remains that the entire ridge property should be purchased at a fair market price and should become part of Minnewaska State Park Preserve. Partial development, on the lower slopes, might be less of a viewshed, water, and traffic problem, but it would still drastically change the character of the ridge, while fragmenting habitat and making access to necessary migration and prey areas impossible for animals, also encouraging invasive species, etc. etc. The land is part of an ecological unit.

You really have to come and view the projected area of development to understand what an outrage building a subdivision there would be. This was brought home when State Assemblyman Tom Kirwan, Republican, who represents the town of Shawangunk, joined two of us in a guided jeep tour of the viewshed from Minnewaska State Park conducted by Park Superviser Tom Cobb. We had previously attempted to explain the gravity of the situation to Mr. Kirwan, but it wasn't until he saw it with his own eyes that he understood. At the end he said, "This was like an epiphany. What a devastation it would cause. You have to consider private property rights, but public interest trumps private property, and this is not in the public interest. It's not a question of 350 or 50, it's a question of no development. It would just be an abomination."

Though there is little action about the plan itself at this moment there is significant action going on in Gardiner. A petition for a building moratorium while the master plan is revised and zoning laws brought in accord was signed by around 1000 Gardiner residents, a huge number for a small town, and presented to the Town Board. Again the TB asked the PB for a recommendation, and the PB responded by recommending against it, while admitting they didn't really understand it; the town planner agreed, saying there had been a dropoff in subdivision applications in recent years so it wasn't necessary. The public and one board member, Bill Richards, wanted a public hearing; instead the superviser and the rest of the board asked for written comment with a very short deadline. Around 100 letters were submitted, running 75% pro-moratorium with carefully reasoned arguments, but the town board ignored not only the petition but also the results of its own procedures, and let the whole issue die for lack of a second to Bill Richards' motion. It was quite a stunning display of thwarting the public will, and will come back to haunt them in the upcoming town elections.

There are other issues about Gardiner government, such as conflicts of interest, that are not directly related to Awosting Reserve, but that have caused great mistrust. On November 4 three town board positions are on the ballot. Jack Hayes, current superviser, is running for reelection against Carl Zatz, and four candidates are running for the two board seats. On October 4 Save the Ridge held a forum with all six candidates, three of whom (Hayes, John Turner, and Peter Licis, Republicans) had endorsed only parts of our platform, and three of whom (Zatz, Matthew Bialecki, and Nadine Lemmon, Democrats) had endorsed it completely. There was strong consensus of all six candidates that the ridge should be protected (Licis most strongly of the Republicans), which is excellent news and a victory in itself. But the three who had endorsed our platform were eager to use a position on the town board to work to that end, whereas the other three seemed to feel that being on the board would tie their hands more than it would empower them. Though STR is a nonpartisan organization that has not itself endorsed any candidate, we will continue to urge our members to work as hard as they can for the candidate of their choice - whether you live in Gardiner or not, since this decision affects us all. (If you want to work for the those who have endorsed our full platform, contact yvonneallenson@aol.com.)

There are only a few days left (till Oct. 10) to register to vote here or to change your registration from elsewhere, at least for this one crucial election. In a small town a few votes can determine a race. Please mention this also to your friends. Also please apply for an absentee ballot if you even MIGHT be away that Tuesday.

Other things to do:

Though it may look as though nothing is happening, this is in fact a very important period for the public to make its opposition known, because it is right now that the developers are considering their options. Keep putting up lawn signs! That may be the most important thing anyone does. There can never be too many. Carry some in your car, offer them to your neighbors, take the Save the Ridge petition to places where you see few signs and knock on doors, asking people to write letters. You can get extra signs from Irwin at csydroz@frontiernet.net, and flyers and petitions from Kevin at kschochat@nyc.rr.com. If your sign has been stolen, contact Nanno at magcat@frontiernet.net, and we will provide a new one for free.

You may have already written letters to politicians and newspapers but there is no reason not to write more. Addresses are on the website, www.savetheridge.com.

You can also contact Kevin or Mark (markferri@mindspring.com) to volunteer to table at various upcoming events.

We have beautiful hats and t-shirts (all for $15 - wear them like a billboard!) as well as the bumper stickers and lawn signs for sale - all available at meetings or through the website - and recently the photographer Steve Jordan gave us copies of his beautiful calendar and brand new book of photos of the ridge to sell, $15 for the calendar and $40 for the book. (He will also host a signing Nov. 29 at Ariel books in New Paltz.)

Also on the redesigned website, join the online discussion group, and read the many letters to the editor and documents that our webmistress has posted.

We will continue to hold public monthly meetings of Save the Ridge, usually on Sundays at 6:30. The most recent meetings have been in Gardiner because of the importance of the elections there, but n July we met in New Paltz, and we will continue holding some of the meetings in neighboring towns. If you'd like to arrange a meeting in your town, please let me know (info@savetheridge.com).

If you have connections to any kind of organization that might be interested, let us know what we can do to help you get them involved. Nanno (magcat@frontiernet.net) can get you speakers and a slide show. Please also let us know about any press contacts you may have, or, in fact, any other requests or ideas (info@savetheridge.com). This is a citizens' movement dependent on the initiative of everyone who cares. There is no "they" who will protect the Ridge, there is only us. Remember Pogo saying "We have met the enemy and he is us"? We say, We have met the defenders, and they are us - all of us. And so far we are winning. Keep it up, and our beautiful ridge will be protected forever.

Patty Lee Parmalee, coordinator, Save the Ridge, Inc.


June 1, 2003

The development proposal for the 2600 acre site on the southeast slope of the Northern Shawangunks, which we have been opposing since November 2002, is still in the earliest stages of consideration at both the town and the DEC levels. These are two parallel tracks whose relation to each other is a little complex, but the simple version is that the town cannot make any decisions until after the SEQRA (State Environmental Quality Review Act) process is finished ­ which could take a year or more. The town of Gardiner (where most of the proposed development lies) is however proceeding with consideration of the "sketch plan" submitted by the developer. It seems to us that although they may not have violated that principle, they are proceeding faster than they need to, in order to accommodate the developers and investors. We are also concerned that they are trying to sidestep the New York open meetings law by meeting in small, unofficial groups without a quorum. This development is a matter that intensely affects the public and all proceedings should be open to the public.

The Town Board will meet Tuesday, June 3, at 7:30 pm at the Gardiner Firehouse. On the agenda: 1) the Boardıs reaction to the Planning Boardıs recommendation that it (the Board) give the P.B. permission to consider a cluster development there. See FAQ for our response to that. 2) Save the Ridge will present the 1100+ signatures on the Gardiner Moratorium petitions and the Board has allotted time to discuss it. Come and see how the Board members individually react, and keep in mind that some of them are up for reelection in November.

What stage is the proposal at before the Planning Board? Technically there is not even an application yet. The P.B. is reviewing the applicant's conventional site plan (what the applicant claims would be allowable under 5-acre zoning) in order to determine how many lots would be allowable in a cluster plan. At this point the town planner and the P.B. have sent the proposal back to the drawing board because the two main access roads need to be "suburban" roads (because they have 2 or more intersections), and the roads currently designed are too steep and narrow.

What about the Clouser report on central sewage? Why hasnıt the P.B. responded to that submission of March 17? This report by expert engineer David Clouser (on the website) states that the proposal is caught in a Catch-22: county health requirements state for a subdivision of over 49 lots there must be central sewage treatment, but Gardiner zoning states that in the AR-200 area there cannot be central sewage, and furthermore no variances allowed there. The developers (and, presumably, those P.B. members who want the project) are looking into a way around this but we donıt think they'll find a legal one. No official response has come yet.

As for SEQRA, the ball is currently in the developers' court; the next step is for them to present a draft scoping document. They may wait until they have a better idea of what the town is going to allow, or they may forge ahead. It could be tomorrow or it could be months away. Once they have filed their draft, we will go into action with responses. A committee of all the major players in the scoping process has met twice now to make sure all bases will be covered and to coordinate expert submissions when the time comes. But at that stage ­ not beforehand! - the public is heartily invited (this is one of the purposes of the SEQRA law) to submit every concern it has about potential impacts to the natural environment or to community quality of life, etc. Feel free to write the DEC about your general unease at any point, but letters about specific impacts will only be really effective if submitted at the appropriate point in scoping. We will of course announce far and wide when that time comes.

Save the Ridge itself continues to solidify its organizational structure. We are in the process of incorporating. We need to make the committees more functional; Events Committee just met to plan its own structure, under the new leadership of Josephine Bloodgood and Warren Christopher. Petitions Committee is focusing on tabling at major events, under Kevin Schochat, Mark Ferri, and Julie Anselmo. However, many other kinds of petitioning are important: door to door in areas that are bereft of lawn signs, at post offices or other public venues ? use your ingenuity, and whenever you do petition, remember that signing the form is the least important aspect; the most important is to get people writing letters to the town, to politicians, and to the newspapers. (And if they want a sign, so much the better.) Anyone can do this, anytime, without being on the committee. Petitions are available to download from the website, signs are available from Irwin Cantor at signs@savetheridge.com, and all materials should be at our meetings. We also have T-shirts, hats, and buttons, available at meetings or from the website.

We had two very successful and inspiring public event lately. 1) Brenda Bufalino's benefit tap dance and music performance on May 10 was a thrilling opportunity to see a local talent. All proceeds went to Save the Ridge. (We are raising money for materials, publicity, expert studies for SEQRA, and a legal fund. Financial statements are available on request.) And Daniel Brownstein's "protest hike" on May 17 took over 100 people to Castle Point for a devastating view of just some of the area the development would fill.

Listening to the request of the last STR public meeting, we have decided to have a regular, predictable public informational and business/organizing meeting once a month, on the first Sunday. (With an exception for Labor Day weekend and July 4 weekend) You can mark your calendars now. Other events like speakers, films, etc. will probably also be on Sundays, but not regularly scheduled. Watch the home page of the website or sign up for email on the website to be informed.

We are pretty sure we're going to win this.

And it has been a great pleasure working with so many enthusiastic, knowledgeable, and principled people. If you have any questions please write me at info@savetheridge.com. If you are offering help, please state something about where you live and what kind of thing you are interested in doing. Also look around the website ­ a lot of your questions may already be answered thanks to the fine job by Kerry Clair, our webmistress.


March 21, 2003

This overview was provided by a Save The Ridge member that attended the meeeting.

The meeting last night appeared to be for the purpose of having the developers (Chaffin Lights) come back to the planning board with an updated plan that responded to concerns members of the planning board and their professional planner had raised. Many of these concerns have not yet been fully addressed but apparently addressing them will be an ongoing process. The revised plan presented last night is still only a draft. The next step is apparently a "sketch plan" and then there will be a "preliminary plan" etc.

These concerns were raised that would be of particular interest to environmental groups:

  • Questions regarding lots on the "rise" (steeply sloped portions of the plan): are these "buildable" according to town codes?
  • Questions regarding road grades (in steeply sloped areas)
  • Question whether central sewer system is preferrable to individual septic systems
  • Question as to adequate water supply (plan assumes individual wells, but planning board wants to ensure there will be enough water to provide for the increased usage entailed with development)

Developers seemed confident that all these matters could be satisfactorily addressed, but the town planner, who had numerous questions, apparently wanted more complete answers. He will be putting together a letter addressing his various concerns and points of disagreement to be endorsed by the planning board and sent on to the developers. This letter, once endorsed by the planning board, will become part of the public record and members of the public can obtain copies under FOIA .

This was not a public hearing, so members of the audience (a lot!) were only given about ten minutes to ask questions, but they were assured that there will be further and more expanded opportunities for that, in the form of public hearings. It seems that the sequence in the review process is something like this:

  1. Planning board and Town board, in consultation with one another, work with developer to make sure their plans are in accordance with town building and zoning codes, and that appropriate variances are requested and obtained where applicable.
  2. At some point along in there, these entities hold public hearings.
  3. The plan goes to DEC for SEQRA process
  4. More public hearings (under SEQRA)
  5. Developers make recommended revisions (or abandon plan, in best case scenario!)
  6. Revised plan comes back to town boards/DEC

I'm not sure about all the precise steps, but it was made clear at the meeting that there is a back and forth.

While the town planner and some members of the board (eight of them, not including the professionals -- planner and attorney) seemed appropriately astute in raising concerns and questions, it was pretty clear that people in the audience were wary that they might nevertheless give the developers too much latitude in deciding certain key items. Example: A question arose as to how it would be determined which lots were "buildable" The planner asked the developers if they could have their engineer submit a report on each lot, and at that a noticeable murmer of "No!" went through the audience. (Please note: Thank you to Marion Kells for pointing out the following: "The PB attendee no doubt mistook the secretary, Margaret Wagner, as one of the board members. There are seven members, thus preventing tie votes.")

I imagine at some point groups in opposition will want to find our own engineers to independently determine these kinds of things (same with water supply, road grades, etc.) But maybe that can wait for the time of the SEQRA hearings. Groups like Friends of the Shawangunks may already be thinking about that, as they brought together those kinds of expertise in fighting Marriott.


February 9, 2003

We have been having many meetings but much of the detail of them I have not been able to include here because it involves giving out too much of our "battle plan", but I did want to cover a few things from the latest meeting. We meet every Sunday evening to discuss plans, strategies and latest information. Some committees actually meet more often than that, so please do not think we are not working on this CONSTANTLY. It is just that much of what we are doing we need to not dicuss until we are ready to present it.

We spoke with Hinchey's office after his great speech at the public meeting last week and he advised that we must pick up the ball and run with it now, and not let it drop after the momentum he started for us. We discussed the silent involvement of the major organizations involved with us and we decided that we need to get them to start becoming more public. They are mostly of the opinion that this is going to be going on for a long time and they will be there when we need them. We feel we started a fire and we need them to step in now and no longer be silent partners in this. The liaison committee is going to get to work on this, because we are concerned that some of our efforts may be being duplicated and also to touch base with other organizations to see which of their resources (lawyers and experts) we can utilize.

We also discussed the importance of raising more "big" money and getting more involved in fund raising to further this cause. We are at the point where we need to start hiring professionals and the cost may be extensive. We will be having some fund raisers - March 21 will be a tap dancing benefit at Unison, and we have an art auction in the works - local artists please donate. We also have something planned at Whitecliff winery. More details to come.

We are also planning a big hike in the spring to show people the ridge area and also have a picnic and general "fun" day.

We also discussed our new billboard - please check it out - it is located southbound on RTE 208 just north of 44/55.

We discussed the fact that the Awosting Reserve (Bradley and Chaffin Light) have been kicked out of biodiversity partnership! This is MAJOR as they promote themselves as being a part of it and a part of conserving the environment yet the major organization in this area has kicked them out stating that their position is no longer in synch.

Our petition now has well over 700 signatures - to push for a Gardiner moratorium. This issue is NOT dead as posted on the web site and reported in the paper.

Clouser report is done - this is something that the Shawangunk Conservancy put money up for to do a professional review of the proposed development plan. It compares the plan to the issues we are raising. The report is in and we will put in on the web site shortly.

The next general meeting will be February 23rd at the Shawangunk firehouse at 6:30 PM. All welcome.


December 22, 2002

Patty discussed the overwhelming response to the request for people to work with us on this project.

Irwin brought along 250 signs and bumper stickers that read SAVE THE RIDGE - they can now be purchased off the website.

It was requested that people please continue to write letters to the editor and to the Gardiner planning board. it is important to consider this Phase I. Phase II will be the decision that the planning board makes and what we will do in response. Our position for now is that we do not want ANY development there and we need to state what our optimum desire is. No development. It is important to get our signs out on lawns and on cars - more and more organizations are joining us after seeing this outpouring of support.

The Gardiner group spoke about the fact that there were more than 30 organized groups along the ridge and most are willing to work with us. The Gardiner Political committee is focusing on getting a moratorium. We will continue to post the meeting dates so people can attend and voice their concerns and opinions.

Various people spoke of the importance of coordinating all the groups together - hence our liaisons committee - and also getting as much publicity about this as we can.

Leaflets are being developed by the writing committee - they will be printed up and ready for people to hand out, take door to door, leave at doctors offices etc.

Future meetings were discussed. We plan to have various guest speakers come and talk to us about how to best approach this matter. One of the education directors for Minnewaska will be speaking to us about the biodiversity in the area and how it will be affected. We are also looking to get the authors of Megamall On the Hudson - who was successful in blocking a WalMart being built in New Paltz. We also plan to have fund raising events.

The research committee has been separated into five groups. I won't list what they are doing, because we want to have SOME information up our sleeves, but I am sure that Chaffin and Light are prepared for most of our arguments...we'll just have to really know our stuff and we plan to!

The next meeting will be Sunday, January 12th at the Firehouse again. Please bring $1 to donate to the firehouse for letting us use the facilities.


Ridge Meeting December 8, 2002

Today many of the Save The Ridge and other groups met to discuss how to best organize and best approach the issues facing us. It was decided that we would separate into groups (see group list here) and get better organized. The groups decided on were: Gardiner politics, Research, Petition Drive, Signs, graphic work, Letters,articles,written materials, Events(fundraising & publicity), Legal work, New Ideas, Organizational Task Force, Treasurer and Mailbox/Phone inquiries (and of course the website).

It was also decided to look into getting a billboard up somewhere that would be noticed and to try to get this donated. We think that we are close to accomplishing this, and will let you know where the billboard will be in a further update.

We heard a report from the Gardiner's Committee that the town planning board is going to review the Master plan for the town, so we of course want to do our homework and be prepared to voice our opinions on that. Read more about that here.

The date of the next meeting was decided as December 22nd. If you attend bring $1 to donate to the Shawangunk Firehouse and also bring some extra money if you want to purchase bumper stickers or lawn signs. Checks made out to Friends of the Shawangunks are tax deductible. The sign committee said that signs would be available at the meeting. You can also contact Irwin Cantor to see about getting a sign if you are not attending the meeting.

The Petition Committee is also working on getting the wording of our petition set up. Please stand by for more details about that.


November 22, 2002
Today some of us met with a reporter from the N.Y. Times. The Times is doing a story on the potential development project. The reporter mainly wanted to know what we felt about it, how it would impact our lives, what we thought we could do to stop it.

The reporter is also trying to interview with Bradley (have been unable to make a firm contact with him yet) and with representatives of the development group - Chaffin Light Associates. Today their spokesperson cancelled their appointment, but she is trying to reschedule.

You'll also note that there are "SAVE THE RIDGE" signs going up on lawns, and banners on poles that say "DON'T JUNK THE GUNKS! If you can contribute to the making of the signs (do you have a business that can do it at cost for us?) or contribute financially to the creation of signs and posters please post in our bulletin board and someone will get in touch with you.

Other interesting news is that there are a lot of other groups, and grassroots organizations getting involved or expressing interest in this. The Friends of the Shawangunks is out front, of course, as well as the Shawangunk Conservancy, the Sierra Club, the Scenic Hudson org., The Appalachian Mountain Club, among others. There is also a local movement of landowners in the area called GARD (Gardiner Association for Responsible Development) and another local landowners group that calls themselves "Save the Ridge". Save The Ridge are the ones currently making signs and banners. They are having a meeting on Sunday to further discuss.


You can make a donation to help pay for flyers, signs, billboards and other expenses. You can click on the button below, or you can send a check to: Save the Ridge, P.O. Box 326, Wallkill, NY, 12589. If you would like to make a tax-deductible donation to pay for legal expenses, please email us at: treasurer@savetheridge.com.



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